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Gundam SEED Destiny 33

Stellar’s funeral, Neo and Murrue’s reunion, Lunamaria putting on the moves, and Durandal & Meer give The Speech(TM) outting LOGOS while uniting the majority of the world for one cause.

After the cheese of the previous episode, Gundam SEED Destiny 33 brings on the funk and does an excellent job igniting the start of what could be the second Coordination War in GS/GSD history. Ridiculously good animation throughout the entire time also help to make this one of the better episodes of the series thusfar. Just look at Lunamaria Hawke: Version Bandage Mk. II for an perfect example of the animation goodness.

Someone was watching Mai-HiME
Awesome animation aside, I kept thinking back to Mai-HiME 15 with Alyssa and Miyu. Well that and how over dramatic this scene was, especially with Stellar’s arms going out in embrace-like pose or whatever. All this scene really did was allow Shinn to start on the road to become the next Darth Vader.

I’m a COLONEL damn it!
I actually liked Mwu’s and Murrue’s reunion a lot more than Stellar’s funeral by Shinn. One has to feel sorry for Murrue when her ex-love is right in front of eyes after everyone thought he was dead, only not to recognize you at all. Made even worse by the fact that Neo/Mwu still acted the same way he would have in the past (that’s what I think).

I do think the running gag they’re starting with the Major and Colonel rank will (and did) get old pretty quick.

The Power of the Hawke
Lunamaria’s game was ON when she and Athrun had some alone time in the mech bay. Really hilarious how obvious her advances were to Athrun but the man himself was displaying classic male harem syndrome. The fool! And Lunamaria was looking more smokin’ than usual because of the bandages (bandages add +13 to appearance, first pioneered by Rei of Evangelion) and animation!

The Speech(TM)
Gilbert Durandal of the Darth Sith and Meer Campbell really did a number with their speech to the human world. I won’t go into the finer points of the speech as I’m sure it’s been beaten to death by other anime bloggers and forums, but once you get through the fluff you realize what a great piece of propaganda it was. Not only am I talking about the skillful editing job PLANT did to not include Freedom (and Archangel) as Athrun pointed out but also in working the popularity at large with goals that sound nice in theory but are unattainable in reality. Defeating LOGOS doesn’t not necessarily mean the end of all wars… that’s just impossible. Human nature just doesn’t work that way. There will always be individual(s) that want more and will easily use violent means to get it.

One of the reasons The Speech(TM) worked so well was that the general popularity’s easy to brainwash, more so when they’re in crowds. Part of that crowd mentality where the majority of the people will go with the flow of everyone else etc etc. Also considering it’s a time of war, to be able to pinpoint one’s suffering to a group of individuals helped to give the idea of hope to those suffering. It’s always easier to fight an enemy one can put a face to.

What I found really great, though, was Jibril. Understandable in the sense that being the leaders in power would give one over confidence but still, how do you not have a backup plan just in case your dealings get found out? Screw the “we’ve been here since the beginning of mankind” crap, there’s always a possibility of something going wrong no matter how long one has been in charge. Just seeing Jibril’s face was priceless! Looked like he crapped in his pants that LOGOS had been found out and shown to the public. What’s even worse is how later on we’ll see how much of a “leader” this Jibril is… he’s only out to save his own frickin’ tail! Plus he can’t do crap by himself… reminds me of Obsidian Lord from Mai-HiME who can only scheme (all talk no action). I started to ponder how LOGOS survived with such “great” leaders like over-confidence cocky Jibril at the wheel.

I guess no one taught LOGOS (and Jibril) the lesson “there will always be someone better than you” huh?

26 Comments »

Comment by Zyl

July 24, 2005 @ 3:30 am

Logos. Quite interesting that the Wikipedia entry on the GS/GSD cast claims that Murata Azrael’s father, Bruno Azrael (spelled ‘Azrail’ in this ep), is a Logos member. He gets some speaking time and they do look a bit alike. Wonder if they’re anything about this in the GSA spinoff?

Lunamaria. Now everytime I see that scene I just can’t help but think again of another Karmaburn comment: “In other news, my goodness, but Lunamaria sure talks dirty.”

GSD’s got everything! Big robots, cute girls, harem, sis-con. I just wonder where the yuri is. :P

Comment by moyism

July 24, 2005 @ 11:07 am

I wouldn’t mind a little Lunamaria dirty talk. That’s just hot. *wink*

Comment by Kurogane

July 25, 2005 @ 9:25 pm

haha, lol. I didn’t notice much of the things in GSD 25-34 cos i was batch watching them after getting them from a friend. Ahh…… I sooooo wanna blog!!!!! Damn my hostel, Damn them!!!!

Anyways, I do agree that luna looks hot in bandages, but then she still doesn’t come close to Rei ;) . But then, after watching until 39, I’m leaning over to her sister’s side already ^^. Just waiting for Meyrin to wake up :) .

Comment by Kurogane

July 25, 2005 @ 9:26 pm

Oh, and forgot to add. Nekomimi Luna = MOEEERUU!!!!

Comment by Shinn Asuka pwns you!

July 26, 2005 @ 8:53 pm

As for me, I am gonna have to say that Ep34 has been my favorite GSD Ep so far, And I think that those who know what happens in 34 know precisely why…
I am going to steer away from Spoilers, but put it this way: I am revenged for two of my favorite characters in each SEED and DESTINY…

Comment by moyism

July 26, 2005 @ 8:58 pm

dude, it’s not like I don’t already know what happens. spoiler away man! I’ve been keeping up with the current GSD episodes but just haven’t actually blogged them yet.

Comment by Shinn Asuka pwns you!

July 27, 2005 @ 12:02 am

Kira gets what’s coming to him…Freedom is THRASHED, and it is GOOD to seeSHinn-haters’d hate that episode, because Shinn pwns Kira again, andf again, and again…culminating in him impaling Freedom with S-Impulse’s Excalibur AntiShip Beam Sword…SO glad that happens, makes me feel almost like Miguel, and Nichol, and Stellar…and there was someone elsse too, in DESTINY, can’t remember who though…Not Heine, that was actually Stellar who killed him. But there WAS somebody…

Comment by moyism

July 27, 2005 @ 5:28 am

I’m happy Kira for once had a “challenge” per se. It is kind of gay that Kira is at the top with Freedom so to see some action for once was nice.

I don’t think Shinn really “pwned” Kira as you put it. Oh, he definitely won the fight without an doubt. I just don’t think it was on “fair” grounds in the sense of Kira & Shinn truly going all out. Obviously in war you take all the advantages you can get and Shinn used those to ensure his victory. Kira’s “no kill” policy finally got the best of him and truthfully, surprisingly how long he lasted not “killing” anyone of real importance in the series was a miracle in itself (killing in quotes cause you know he killed some grunts and whatnot… just no one worth of value in the eyes of Kira I guess). Kira also not wanting to fight but just protect the AA really didn’t have him going toe-to-toe with Shinn either. Also, and this could be wrong since I haven’t re-watched GSD 34 in awhile, wasn’t it non-SEED Kira versus SEED Shinn?

I’ll be whistling a different tune if the battle intent was similar to how it was in GS with Athrun and Kira in Aegis and Strike. Now THAT was a great all-out battle with the two using every ounce of their abilities to truly kill each other. If only that was how Shinn and Kira battled…

So basically, while I’ll be the first to admit Shinn’s victory over Kira I just don’t see it as a true true victory where Shinn could have felt perfect satisfication knowing he thoroughly beat his enemy after they both gave it 200%. Realistically I know that’s impossible and how Shinn handled the battle is the usual (and most preferred) way to actually winning a fight/battle/war. A man can dream though right?

(BTW, I think the person you’re thinking of is Auel but Shinn killed him)

Comment by Shinn Asuka pwns you!

July 27, 2005 @ 7:45 pm

Nope, it actually started out SEED-mode Kira vs Non-SEED Shinn. After Shinn dodged a shot that went right past his head, he went SEED-mode, and from then on, Kira was pretty much doomed:

While Freedom has serious advantages offensively, and is faster and better armored than Impulse, in addition to the edge provided by its unlimited power-supply, Impulse is nonetheless more agile. Plus, its extreme degree of modularity grants it an additional advantage over Freedom, though the odds were in the latter’s favor anyway. Not only that, but it has one major pair of advantages, which Shinn does in fact use: A pair of powerful Beam Swords, which were specifically designed (and used, which is more than I can say abou Kira’s case) to destroy warships, targets a whole lot bigger and thicker-armored than any normal MS (Destroy Gundam aside, as that’s essentially a “Big Zam” Gundam).

No, actually, I have a screenshot from that scene as my desktop wallpaper…Of course, I could be mistaken…let me see, Nichol, Stellar, Miguel…Andy survived, so that doesn’t count, I hated Rau, so he doesn’t count either…Yeah, I think I counted Heine by mistake…

Anyhow, that was an INTENSE fight…I don’t get Kira. I mean, he’s not stupid (is he?), he must’ve realized that Stellar (Destroy GUndam’s pilot) meant a lot to Shinn, and that, like Athrun was after Nichol’s death, Shinn’d be pissed off at him, to the point of wanting to kill him.
And yet, he fought as though he expected Shinn to pull his punches, as opposed to going all out and trying to kill him. That, IMO, makes NO sense.

Although if there is one thing I hope, it is that Neo Lorrnoke dies at Shinn’s hands. He deserves it. I mena, Shinn was more than just a bit naive, trusting him, but still…I hope he dies, no matter who he used to be.

Saviour reminded me a little of Wing Zero…And I find it a bit pathetic how easily they killed it off…Wait, that’s it!
I was thinking of Kira’s effortless, near-pointless destruction of Saviour Gundam! (I’m crazy that way, I treat the mech and their pilots on an equal level, as both are absolutely necessary elements of the plot)

I strongly disliked Auel, Sting was uninteresting…whatever.

Comment by moyism

July 27, 2005 @ 8:29 pm

Okay… I’m gonna pass through your list of advantages, since I already stated Shinn had those (but never actually listed the exacts). I guess you could have just said “while Freedom seemingly had the advantage in terms of power, Impulse had a better arrange of weaponary and skills to use.”

For some reason, I didn’t see the fight being intense. Only Shinn was going off the deepend (considerable when looking at the events that played out) while Kira was doing his best to turn tail. Personally I just didn’t see Kira giving a rat’s arse about his fight with Shinn; that also being part of Kira’s downfall. As for your view about Kira not knowing about Stellar and Shinn, I doubt Kira actually knew. The difference is we as viewers have knowledge to information that not all the other characters in the series do. The Shinn and Stellar relationship being one of them… it’s not like Kira hung around to watch Shinn bury Stellar ‘ya know? Going back to the actual Shinn and Kira fight though, yea I’ll partly agree with you about it making little to no sense why Kira didn’t actually try to defend himself better against Shinn. The only reason I can see so was because Kira prioritized protecting the Archangel and making sure it gets to the ocean more than anything else. (once again, you also have to take in the fact that I doubt either of the two actually spoke to each other when battling unless they opened communications or had open-mics on. This is also something that I’ve been thoroughly annoyed with in GS/GSD where you assume that the various enemy pilots are talking to each other when in reality they shouldn’t be!)

I still don’t believe it’s totally Neo/Mwu’s fault for what happened to Stellar. Athrun pretty much summed it up nicely when he told Shinn it would have been better if he had not return her. It’s pretty stupid on Shinn’s part no matter how you look at it that he’ll simply believe Neo would follow what he said because he “promised.” That’s just BS on so many levels!

… Saviour was easily n00bed for two reasons: Athrun was totally off-guard not thinking Kira would actually attack him and Athrun had that male indecivisiveness (found in 99% of all harem males) for the majority of the GSD. I was a bit sad to see it go too considering it never got any real action beside transformating back and forth. =/

Comment by SHINNHATER

August 7, 2005 @ 11:43 pm

SHINN IS SOOOO FUCKED UP! I HATE HIM. NOTHING TO IT…JUST AN IGNORANT FUCKED UP GUY.

Comment by Shinn Asuka pwns you!

August 8, 2005 @ 10:17 am

Wow…shows what you know. “Nothing to i”, huh? so basically, you hate him for absolutely no reason at all?
Well, I despise Kira, but I have reasons…Likewise, I have actual reasons for liking Athrun and Shinn.
(Random: Am I the only one who thinks Meyrin looked hot with her hair down?)

Comment by Kazamatsuri

August 17, 2005 @ 10:04 pm

I’m pretty sure that Shinn doesn’t posess even nearly as much skill as Kira or Asrun. He doesn’t have as much experience, and all he can do is destroy, destroy, destroy. Kira and Asrun are actually trying to save lives, aiming for parts other than the cockpit, at almost all times. For Shinn, he just aims at the center of the target. Asrun went into battle INJURED in episode 43 of the series, and finally put an end to Shinn’s winning streak. And I recall hearing Shinn say “Hes not that strong” about Asrun before he defected! All you saw Asrun doing was distracting and disabling, while Shinn just went for kill after kill. Which is the more noble cause?

I think Shinn began to think that victory in battle meant that he was fighting for the right cause. Hopefully, he cleans up his attitude now that he got a good punch to the face.

In the end, when Kira didn’t have Archangel to worry about, Shinn couldn’t take him down, even with a new unit. I must say I like the scene where he catches’ Destiny’s beam sword to deploy a nice explosion right to Shinn’s face.

Comment by Divine Providence

December 6, 2005 @ 9:01 pm

Although this series is long over, I just think I should comment on this “match”.

I believe that Kira’s “no kill policy”, as you put it did lead to his defeat on that occasion. But wasn’t there a point in the match that Kira did intend on cutting Impulse in two at the torso, only to be thwarted by its modular nature? I think if Kira intended to destroy Impulse from the start (or he fought more smartly), he wouldn’t have been defeated. Because in the few episodes where Infinite Justice was out against Destiny, Athrun was able to overpower Destiny easily.

Side note, at first I wondered how Kira survived the sword to the torso. Then I remembered that unlike other models, the cockpit of Freedom was in the chest. But what of the Gouf that Athrun and Meirin took (Meirin was hot in that episode, and much prettier without the pigtails)?

Comment by Anime Freak

February 27, 2006 @ 11:50 pm

To #14.

Okee.. I think Kira was actually going for his legs or something, like he did with Duel, in I believe Ep 35 of Gundam Seed? (Someone get back to me on that one please..). Also, yeah, I thought it was his “no kill policy” that did it.. Shinn did fight really well though. I was impressed. (Considering how berserk and totally insane he usually is.. he was quite calm this time..)

As wth Asuran and the Gouf thing.. If you look closely you can see that the sword hit the Gouf off-center, hitting the side of the torso instead. So it did no damage to the cockpit itself..

Comment by salem

October 26, 2006 @ 10:44 am

THe movie verey good thank you …..

Comment by rider

November 2, 2006 @ 9:37 pm

After reading all of the comments above i must still make this statement yet again,Kira’s damn no kill policy finally got him.It poed my in the the first GS and it really got me mad here.I mean that machine was made for killing and war/combat and he is holding it back yet again,I often wonder what the gundam would say if it could.Would it agree with Kira or not? That is a question that I leave to the readers of this. Now with this battle subject, Shinn got Kira at long last.Kira was acting stupid and wasent fighting as one should, and on top of that he seemed to rather run away then to try and defend himself well falling back bit by bit to the arch. (this is just my thoughts on the battle) by the way the thing with Steallr and the arms in the water was really corney, i mean come on Mr. animator/creator(whtever) can u guys please draw a line here?(why dont they make series like gundam wing anymore??) anyway the battle was nice and it was kinda flashy.And I do agree with the fact that Shinn just attacks and doesnt look back, which sometimes i wished Kira would have done.I think it would have been a better fight if Kira inhereted some of Heero’s(gundam wing) traits when he went seed mode.Like to stop trying to turn tail and fight his oppent. And i also give a big tumbs up to the amazing persont that like me things that the machine is the same(if not more important/better) to there human counterpart. And as always great job on the pic.

Comment by weat

January 19, 2007 @ 4:44 am

is that jibril guy wearing purple lipstick??

Comment by Kazami Hayato

March 16, 2007 @ 3:16 am

Yeah. He wears on purple lipstick. I can see how weird that guy could be the leader of Logos.

I wouldn’t mind of the bad guys for now. Surely Shinn had similar to Sasuke of Naruto have avenger personality. By the way that reminds me of Stellar was killed by Kira and so that is happened of GS when Nicol killed either, unlike Stellar she didn’t slashes in pieces.

About Lunamaria tries to date on Athrun but he had love relationship with Cagalli even Lunamaria had bandages but not similar to Rei. *Shrugs*

Comment by Siberian

April 1, 2007 @ 6:39 am

Methinks you’re forgetting the power gap between I-Justice and Freedom. Athrun’s I-Justice crushed Shinn later in the series, but it’s a later model than Freedom. Hell, Freedom’s an antique compared to I-Justice. Also, count in the fact that Kira never took a life for the majority of the series. Every time he used his multi-targeting system, he only hit the head, and a small portion above the cockpit. That calls for great accuracy, even with the Multi-targeting, which lessens the impact that his “No Kill Policy” has in the battle, or at least puts it in a different light.

The biggest handicap, therefore, would be his desire to protect the Archangel. By the time he started going for killing blows, Shinn was already in his stride, you could say. Shinn’s rage increases his ability and strength as it builds, and it had accumulated quite a bit at that point.

In addition, I don’t think it’s true that the Impulse is more maneuverable than the Freedom, because the Freedom was built specifically to be maneuverable. It stayed in Hi-Mat mode for most of the battle, which easily makes it more maneuverable than the Impulse, which was designed more for versatility than maneuvering.

So, Kira’s advantages are better accuracy, more combat experience, and a faster, more powerful machine. However, he only aims for the head, arms and weapons, and the danger that the Minerva posed to the Archangel constantly distracted him. He didn’t even pull out his Beam Sabers till the battle was halfway done, even though they’re probably easier to control then a ranged weapon.

Shinn has a suit that’s more versatile and has interchangeable leg and chest units. He could also swap equipment mid-battle. He started off rather angry, and ended in what could best be described as a towering fury. He isn’t hindered by the desire to keep his foe alive, and he knows that the Minerva can handle the Archangel (It’s stronger, faster, and had all of it’s weapons in use, whereas the Archangel was facing in a way that prevented many of it’s weapons from being used.) However, he isn’t as experienced, and his building rage makes him reckless. His machine isn’t as maneuverable, or as powerful. Also, since the Minerva can pump it’s battery mid-battle, we can pretty much assume that it’s power supply is as good as infinite.

Since dealing with distractions and rage in battle is considered part of combat skill, they can be sued to judge how skilled the pilot is. Kira was severely bogged down, due to his insecurity towards Archangel’s fate. Shinn not only coped with his rage, but actually managed to turn it into an advantage. Considering these two facts, who is the better pilot? You decide.

This all’s my ten cents. If you’ve already thought this stuff through, sorry for wasting your time. If not, have fun.

Comment by Siberian

April 1, 2007 @ 6:47 am

It may also be worth noting that Kira did get his head-shot at the end of the battle. Unfortunately, it was kind of wasteful, since Shinn had pierced his nuclear reactor with his Excalibur at the same time Kira stabbed the Impulse’s face. So Kira took the head in the end, just like every other battle they both took part in. Shinn lost his head, just like the hundreds of “Little Guys” Kira blew away. The irony of that simple fact is so thick, it’s sickening.

Comment by Kira

April 14, 2007 @ 1:18 am

(Just a side note before I start. To Siberian, you are right that the I-Justice is indeed superior to the Freedom, but you must remember that Kira also got a new Gundam too, the Strike Freedom. I’m sure that would helped him a bit in the fight, rather than the outdated [but still awesome] Freedom.)

I agree, but Shinn’s rage, in my opinion, was all he was fighting with. Now, if Kira had done the same thing, you can imagine the outcome. Also, Shinn did recieve damage during the fight, and he ejected that part as a distraction, blowing it up. The Impulse was able to have the damage piece replaced in battle. It sems a bit unfair, along with the resupply of power.

We all remember how easily Kira took Athrun down at the battle in Crete, right? His attack had rage behind it, and if Athrun took down Shinn easily in 50, then if Kira had used his rage, no contest.

I’m sorry if this seems bias to anyone, but personally, I don’t like Shinn. He’s fighting for the sake to stop war, and that’s good, but he acts as if the death of his family an everyone else is everyone’s fault. In a lot of his fight, we se flashbacks of his sister, Stella, etc. So, that annoys me. Sorry again.

Comment by TeL One

June 29, 2007 @ 9:13 pm

Just a little bit off topic…Athrun is the best pilot, i think. Then comes Kira, then Shinn. Athrun is undefeated in Seed mode. Kira has skill. Shinn has potential but he uses it the wrong way. He gets his ass kicked by Athrun twice in battle. But yeah, Kira would have ripped Shinn a new one if he was going all out.

Comment by KIRA FAN

December 26, 2007 @ 5:13 am

JUST LIKE KIRA SAID BUT I HATE TO SPOIL THE ENDING OF THE 50TH EPISODE

Comment by Fenix

January 9, 2008 @ 6:03 am

athrun is undefeatable in seed mode. But, Athrun only uses seed on the last second. But if Kira and Athrun fight each other in seed they are equally matched. If you watch an episode in seed, when Kira and Athrun use seed and fight each other, they will break each others gundam. But in seed when that happened Athrun used Aegis to grab onto strike, he set a timebomb on Aegis and he evacuated from the gundam.

Comment by SEEDling

February 7, 2008 @ 6:26 am

I would just like to say one thing.
Just look at it this way guys. if shinn didnt destroy the freedom, then we could not have seen the strike freedom, thats al there is to it.

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